Recently the term “welfare state” has come up in many debates over health care, cap and trade, and many other bills. Today I found the best definition of what constitutes a law that is a “welfare state law”
“By the term “welfare state law,” we mean one under which government transfers public funds, property or services without receiving a fair consideration in return. Included with this definition are all of those public welfare programs which provide aid to the young, the old, the sick, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the uneducated, the widows, the orphans, the victims of natural disasters, victims of manmade disasters, etc. … While under some of these programs the government compels the recipient to contribute some of his own money which, in theory, is to be returned to him, he usually receives at least twice as much as he puts in because at least one half of his benefits come from employers or other taxpayers. Also taxpayers pay the cost of administering these programs.” – H. Verlan Anderson
I hope this definition will educate and enlighten us all.
Keep America free from welfare state laws!
“The White House released a report on Monday saying that President Obama’s economic recovery plans may have created 250,000 education jobs. The administration is pushing back against to critics who say the economic stimulus did no good, and saying it’s on track to reach the goal of saving or creating 3.5 million jobs. How many jobs has the stimulus really saved?” – The Week
Obama may have created a quarter million jobs but how many has he destroyed? The stimulus bill caused inflation and has hurt many people, many companies have still cut jobs and many of his plans will cause more jobs to be lost.
What will happen if we have Cap and Trade and we can no longer have coal plants? We will lose jobs. What will happen if government health care takes over and we have a single payer system? We will lose the jobs of all those who work for insurance companies.
A quarter million jobs isn’t that many and if Obama’s plans succeed we will lose more than that before this is over.
I am proud to report what many believe to be a victory for the free market and for America!
For many months I have had little to no good news about what has been happening in Washington. I can finally say We The People have accomplished something!
I have been asking myself why haven’t I heard anything about the cap and trade bill for a while? I found my answer today at the CATO Institutes’ Website.
“Simple: the votes aren’t there for it. Blanche Lincoln, the new head of the Agriculture Committee, calls cap-and-trade a “complete non starter” and said that it is not her “preference to move on cap and trade this year.” Majority Leader Harry Reid recently signaled his agreement by stating that cap-and-trade “may” not be considered until next year. For cap-and-trade, “next year” translates as “never.” Senators know what touched off the town halls, and they know what fate awaits many of their Democratic colleagues come November 2010. Passing an unpopular health care “public option” along with cap-and-trade will easily realign the Senate into its old filibustering self. That kills cap-and-trade in the next Congress.” – Cato Institute (Patrick J. Michaeles)
The people stood up for the free market and informed their representatives and senators that they did not support this bill and because of that we have won the battle. Good job America!
Today, I finally found the full text for H.R. 2998, also known as the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009, but still more commonly known as the Cap and Trade bill. I have trudged through the first 35 pages of this 1201 page bill, and I shake in anger at what Washington is trying to put us through. I will write more on my findings tomorrow but till then please go to govtrack.us and start reading this bill for yourself.
I’m sure someone has already come up with this, but this is one argument against cap and trade that I call my own.
While I would deny that we are producing to much carbon, I will also say that, going under the assumption we do need to reduce carbon, cap and trade will not be an effective way to limit it. Business costs rise. What do businesses do? They relocate. Let’s suppose that businesses that represent 10 percent of American carbon emissions move. This seems pretty reasonable because the businesses with the most carbon emissions will be the first to go. Suppose some of them go to China, and when they research environmental protection laws in china, they find that if there are any, they don’t come close to the American standards. Begin to produce more carbon than they produced before. If they increase carbon output by only one fifth, or produce 12% of America’s 2008 carbon output, and companies still in America produce 80% (80% is less than what I heard America should be producing in a decade under cap and trade) of America’s 2008 carbon output, then we have arrived at a whopping 8% reduction in carbon output. And that’s before adding other ways to get around the law, or breaking the law, into my calculations. All that at a tremendous cost: jobs lost, prices up, more real pollutants as companies move to less regulated countries, and probably effects on businesses similar to that of Europe’s cap and trade system. (see this article paragraphs 7-10. the rest is good too)
Finally, if you think the cap could just be lower to make it effective, (and I think it supposed to lower much further, just don’t quote me there) then more companies would relocate until carbon production was somewhat affordable. That’s the way markets work. If man is responsible for global warming, then, well, I’m afraid that’s just too bad if cap and trade is the best we can do.
I didn’t realize how much of this was redundant when I wrote it because I had not read James’ pasts, but I’ll keep it.
“[U]nder my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
— Barack Obama, 2008 (click here to see video of Obama saying it, this quote is about 40 seconds into it, but the whole thing is only 2 minutes. If you watch the whole thing you can give his points a much fairer evaluation and rejection, knowing you didn’t get him out of context in any way)
Take action now by clicking here to tell your senators to vote it down regardless of amendments.
Below is part of Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s response to an email about cap and trade:
Some Members of Congress have expressed their intent to mandate a cap-and-trade policy to be imposed on all Americans. I believe that cap-and-trade would increase energy prices. In 2008, Peter Orszag, who then served as the Director of the Congressional Budget Office, and who now serves as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, testified before the U.S. Senate’s Committee on Finance on the implications of a cap-and-trade regime. In his testimony, Director Orszag stated, “Under a cap-and-trade program, firms would not ultimately bear most of the costs of the allowances but instead would pass them along to their customers in the form of higher prices.”
For this reason, I believe that a cap-and-trade approach to address climate change would be onerous and would adversely impact the economy. It could create economic hardship for farmers, ranchers, workers and small businesses, in addition to consumers. The last thing our nation needs during this time of economic hardship is higher energy prices and higher levels of unemployment due to a federal mandate passed down from Washington.
–posted by Samuel Peck
Only 2% of the world’s energy comes from renewable resources, yet Obama believes that we can now make that number skyrocket just by making it a bill. Dr. Keith Lockitch of the Ayn Rand Institute wrote this about using more “green” resources.
“This view is a fantasy–one that could devastate America’s economy. The reality is that “green energy” is at best a sophisticated make-work program.”
Barrack Obama said:
“Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
Why? Because it will be nearly impossible to use green energy. Dr. Lockitch said that it would take “1,000 wind turbines, occupying tens of thousands of acres, to produce as much electricity as just one medium-sized, coal-fired power plant.”
Despite our promises from our president this Cap and Trade bill will not work.
We need to stand up and show President Obama that he can’t sneak things in behind our back. We will stand and fight! We must protest this Cap and Trade bill and not allow it to be passed in the Senate. Let us act now before it is too late. Our government for the people, and by the people will not perish!
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The Cap and Trade bill was passed by the house last week, but by how much???
Did not Vote: 3
Why are we as American Citizens passing a bill that only 7 more representatives liked??? Why are we staying silent! If the House represents us at all that means that there are a lot of us who don’t like this bill, and my guess is more don’t like it than do like it! We need to stop a bill that can only pass by 7 votes! America wake up and make this be a government run by the people, for the people! Please call your Senators and tell them to stop this bill. Stand up for your rights and protect the America that our Founding Fathers created! It is time that we stop standing by idling and “hoping for the best”. That is what Obama wants us to do, “hope”. We must act and not just hope. WE control the government, not Obama, Pelosi, and Ried. Let us stop the Cap and Trade bill now, and show the government who really controls it.
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Thank you for your support,
Everyone is complaining about the Cap and Trade bill, and for a good reason, but our complaints don’t reach the senate from here. I challenge every American to call up their senators and tell them that under no circumstances our they to pass the Cap and Trade bill. Call them and Email them. Do everything YOU can to prevent this bill from passing in the Senate. We must stop this bill in it’s tracks! America it is time to band together! A government BY THE PEOPLE, and For the people. We must take government back into our hands, before we forever lose it. America call your senators, tell them that they can not vote for this bill or they will lose your vote. Make them see that it is not their America, but OUR America. American Citizens it is time that we made a difference once more!
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